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so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >> thank you. bret, at the beginning of the show, you were jealous of me because i was with the action and now you are with the action. >> yes. chris wallace has good analysis and he can pick good times. coming up, charles krauthammer on who came out on top. he joins us after this break. you see us, at the start of the day. on the company phone list that's a few names longer. you see us bank on busier highways. on once empty fields. everyday you see all the ways all of us at us bank are helping grow our economy. lending more so
so romney was right. but on medicaid, where romney said it wasn't wouldn't be a cut twould be inflation plus 1% and obama said it would be a 30% cut. there was an independent study by bloomberg. they say that romney's medicaid proposal, $1.26 trillion loss in medicaid over 10 years under the romney plan. so there were facts and some loose arguing of the facts am but an interesting debate. i am not sure a game changer, but a good night for romney, a little less so for the president. >>...
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the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would have been a bad idea? spending all that time on the couch. obama had such a rough night that sandra fluke called him to see if he was doing okay. i thought that was pretty touching. i actually felt -- it's the worst possible feeling that you could have is to feel sorry for somebody and i felt like i was watching the washington generals playing the harlem globetrotters. that's a basketball reference. i wanted to make sure you knew that. but i bet at this point, romney's garbage man is voting for him. obama to me, he remained me of homer simpson rolling down the mountain and continually, no matter what he does, keeps hitting his head over and over and ove
the second thing to say is it wasn't so much the right, and there were people on the romney side trying to push it. it was the left. it was the left that went crazy on obama! they wanted a grudge match, a cage match. they wanted -- >> that's why even the obama campaign thinks they lost. >> yeah, that's the problem. >> when they come out tend with the spinners, it was all romney people. >> who knew that preparation with joy bearrest would have been a bad idea? spending...
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right now says that romney is down by about 4 points which i think probably sounds right to people. one thing the media never do, to do a survey of previous polls and how wrong they were. remember, carter was going to clobber reagan in 1980. there are a number of inaccuracies and go back to them just like the fortune tellers, doesn't matter how many times they were wrong. >> and the news media and libya. >> more details surface about the deadly attacks about the u.s. consulate in libya. al-qaeda terrorists behind the murder of our ambassador and what did the white house know and when did they know it and were aren't the media crying foul? that's next on news watch. ♪ why not take a day to explore your own backyard? with two times the points on travel, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid d
right now says that romney is down by about 4 points which i think probably sounds right to people. one thing the media never do, to do a survey of previous polls and how wrong they were. remember, carter was going to clobber reagan in 1980. there are a number of inaccuracies and go back to them just like the fortune tellers, doesn't matter how many times they were wrong. >> and the news media and libya. >> more details surface about the deadly attacks about the u.s. consulate in...
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there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama... and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy. segment one. and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs. each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, gufirst. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romney and the university of denver for your hospitality. there are a lot of points i want to make tonight, but the most important one is that 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. and so i want to wish, sweetie, you happy anniversary and let you know that a year from now, we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of collapse. the financial system had frozen up. and b
there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama... and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start with the economy. segment one. and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you would go about creating new jobs. each of you have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, gufirst. >> thank you very much, jim, for this opportunity. i want...
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>> well, you are right, governor romney came out. he was aggressive. when do you that, you are always in danger of seeming rude or... pugneighbors. i don't think he d. -- bug -- pugnacious. high seemed to display extraordinary knowledgeability. i don't think president obama had a bad night in the sense that he was way off his game. he was a lot like the president obama we are used to hearing. i don't think he seemed rusty. but i don't think he had the spark or the energy or the precision tonight that governor romney had. governor rom he in a good night. he didn't have a big moment that becomes a sound bite and affects how people look back on the debate. but this was a strong performance by governor romney. he needed one. i think he got it. >> joe? >> i think romney did himself a lot of good tonight. he was there on the issues. he knew his stuff. he didn't back down to the president or the moderator. and he didn't -- he didn't cross the line because you can do that and i think that would have backfired on him. i watched obama debate a lot in primaries w
>> well, you are right, governor romney came out. he was aggressive. when do you that, you are always in danger of seeming rude or... pugneighbors. i don't think he d. -- bug -- pugnacious. high seemed to display extraordinary knowledgeability. i don't think president obama had a bad night in the sense that he was way off his game. he was a lot like the president obama we are used to hearing. i don't think he seemed rusty. but i don't think he had the spark or the energy or the precision...
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there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama... and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy, seth one and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you you go about creating new jobs?w you have two minutes. each have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, you go first. >> thank you very much, jim, yu for this opportunity. i want to thank governor romnek and university of denver for your are hospitality. there are lot of points i wantr to make tonight but the most important one is that 20 years ago i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obamt agreed to mary me and i just want to wish sweety, you happyd anniversary and let you know that a year from now we will not be celebrating it in front of 40 million people. people. four years ago, we went through the worst financial crisis since the great depression. millions of jobs were lost. the auto industry was on the brink of
there is a noise exception right now, though, as we welcome president obama... and governor romney. [cheers and applause] >> reporter: gentlemen, welcome to you both. >> gentlemen, welcome to you both. let's start the economy, seth one and let's begin with jobs. what are the major differences between the two of you about how you you go about creating new jobs?w you have two minutes. each have two minutes to start. a coin toss has determined, mr. president, you go first. >>...
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. >> right. the value of the dollar is falling considerably under president obama because of all the money printing he's done. >> the money printing that ben bernanke has done. >> supporting the treasury and borrowing by obama. what romney understands, david, and president obama is clueless about, there's a big difference between tax credits and tax rates. cutting tax rates gives you incentive to invest in plant and equipment which then allows you to hire people, because you're going to get to keep an extra amount of money on each dollar of profit you make. cutting tax credits does not hurt incentive, because tax credits are temporary and does not encourage investment. >> steve, i want to keep it on the simplification, because that's success i can identify with. i haven't my own taxes in a long time. the reason is, because it's just too complex. i'm not a small business. if i was a small business, i'd have to do devote hundreds of hours of time, a lot of money, to figuring the thing out. >> that'
. >> right. the value of the dollar is falling considerably under president obama because of all the money printing he's done. >> the money printing that ben bernanke has done. >> supporting the treasury and borrowing by obama. what romney understands, david, and president obama is clueless about, there's a big difference between tax credits and tax rates. cutting tax rates gives you incentive to invest in plant and equipment which then allows you to hire people, because...
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romney in the polls right now is getting back up to 46, 47% which is where he was going to be anyway. >> that was before last night. >> ben, ben, please, come on man, you got plenty of time. so i think where romney excelled was in his personal performance, what he didn't excel on is selling his policies and the arguments about how he's going to make the country better. he's going to have to do a better job at that in the future debates. i think you'll see obama in the debate and in television ads dissepl -bl the lies and mistakes that romney made last night in his presentation, which is going to take him down a little bit on the policy side. i think, look, democrats aren't panicking. we didn't have a good night. we will still win this election. obama has to raise this game and fight much harder if he wants to death this thing done. megyn: in al gore's defense i did feel a little funny when i was in denver too. i want to show you a couple of polls before i let you go from cnn. 67% say romney won, 25% obama. 75 of independents believe that romney won, just 17 say obama won. and when ask
romney in the polls right now is getting back up to 46, 47% which is where he was going to be anyway. >> that was before last night. >> ben, ben, please, come on man, you got plenty of time. so i think where romney excelled was in his personal performance, what he didn't excel on is selling his policies and the arguments about how he's going to make the country better. he's going to have to do a better job at that in the future debates. i think you'll see obama in the debate and in...
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>> to be fair looking at the polls, i personally don't think it looks great for romney right now but the race could change by election day because we haven't had the debates. the media sort of wishful thinking trying to write off romney. i normally do not buy into ideas that the media is on board on one side. this is the exception. this campaign, this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and those things that mitt romney has done wrong. >> chris: cal, why? >> why? you would have to ask why? my goodness. first of all, these polls we talked about this before on the show. i'm opposed to news organizations doing their own polls and making news from them. what you are going to see about ten days before the election is a lot of story line being, hey the race is tightening because they want to sell newspapers. this is a sophisticated form of fortune telling. i passed by a psychic, let me see who is going to win the election but it's the same approach. >> rick: narrative that gets played out in the media, that it's
>> to be fair looking at the polls, i personally don't think it looks great for romney right now but the race could change by election day because we haven't had the debates. the media sort of wishful thinking trying to write off romney. i normally do not buy into ideas that the media is on board on one side. this is the exception. this campaign, this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and those things that...
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responded by saying, he is right. no, actually a spokesman replied, "it is not surprising a liberal special interest group is trying to distract from president obama's failed agenda with dishonest, political attacks." i think that was actually written for just about every response. you send that thing out. meanwhile, is the prospect of obama winning a second term giving kitten nightmares? i don't see that kitten hugging any garbage men. what kind of kitten is that? it is a monster kitten. jedediah, try to control yourself. when you played the ad with the garbage man, you were nodding your head in agreement. that surprised me. >> who hugs their garbage man? other than you, of course. and it is not just a garbage man. they have follow-up video with a local fireman and then another lady who picks up the trash in the neighborhood. if they were going to pull the class warfare nonsense they should have been more creative than this. no one hands garbage to their -- gatorade to their garbage man. >> you pick up trash nightly.
responded by saying, he is right. no, actually a spokesman replied, "it is not surprising a liberal special interest group is trying to distract from president obama's failed agenda with dishonest, political attacks." i think that was actually written for just about every response. you send that thing out. meanwhile, is the prospect of obama winning a second term giving kitten nightmares? i don't see that kitten hugging any garbage men. what kind of kitten is that? it is a monster...
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and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen among politicians. his secret weapon, just stating it like it is. peter johnson, jr. joins us live right now. >> it was substance. it was specifics. it was hard facts and in doing it, mitt romney crushed the president last night. i think everybody is agreeing on that. we had our research department here at fox, what's known as the brain room, they looked only at the statistics. i think if we looked at concepts, if we look at other stuff, we'd see it higher. when they went head to head, we see mitt romney delivered the stunning blow in terms of statistic after statistic afte
and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen...
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right now, virginia shows romney up by a point. in florida, romney is up. let's start with virginia specifically. virginia was close but now we have romney up by a point in virginia. tell us, predebate, where were they? >>guest: it has been fairly close for a while. a month ago president obama was up by a point or two. there has not been a blow out in virginia through this. what we are seeing --. >> let's go through one by one. florida, talk about florida. your poll, again, polling that came out this morning, brand new, shows romney, 49, and president obama 47. >>guest: it is important to note this poll and all the one we are talking about we did last night after the debate was finished. a month ago, president obama was leading by to points in the great state of florida this is a state romney has to win. again, we are seeing a modest shift. with a four-point shift and it goes from obama up by two, to romney up by two, it is significant. >> now the great state of ohio, that poll, i saw it was obama by 8 percent or 9 percent. there is volatility in the polls.
right now, virginia shows romney up by a point. in florida, romney is up. let's start with virginia specifically. virginia was close but now we have romney up by a point in virginia. tell us, predebate, where were they? >>guest: it has been fairly close for a while. a month ago president obama was up by a point or two. there has not been a blow out in virginia through this. what we are seeing --. >> let's go through one by one. florida, talk about florida. your poll, again, polling...
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the president didn't win. >> right. chris matthews went on to say, if only the president had been watching my show. [ laughter ] >> look. this was one of those epic political masters. jay leno said it best, only the replacement refs think president obama had a good night. >> jon: the comment that challengers always get a boost. nobody seemed to want to say mitt romney won because mitt romney won. >> it was amazing even msnbc had to carry on as if someone in the family had died. it was as piston irk but it was a rare moment of consensus in the press because the press basically agreed romney had won. that must have been painful to admit that but it was obvious. >> jon: they were waiting for a mitt romney gaffe. they were going to pounce upon that and it didn't happen? >> no, it certainly did not. i was not one of the mainstream liberal media but middle stream liberal media that was very upset how the presidential did. i have a theory about why he did as well. that is this white house as opposed to the bush white house and
the president didn't win. >> right. chris matthews went on to say, if only the president had been watching my show. [ laughter ] >> look. this was one of those epic political masters. jay leno said it best, only the replacement refs think president obama had a good night. >> jon: the comment that challengers always get a boost. nobody seemed to want to say mitt romney won because mitt romney won. >> it was amazing even msnbc had to carry on as if someone in the family...
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he was ready. >> all right. thank you. al gore has an explanation for what happened in last night's debate and i promise you, you're probably not going to believe it. that's later. up next a much more serious conscience of the internal debate after the u.s. attack in libya it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. like in a special ops mission? you'd spot movement, gather intelligence with minimal collateral damage. but rather than neutralizing enemies in their sleep, yoargeting stocks to trade. well, that's what trade architect's heat maps do. they make you a trading assassin. trade architect. td ameritrade's empowering web-based trading platform. trade commission-free for 60 days, and we'll throw in up to $600 when you open an account. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" yo
he was ready. >> all right. thank you. al gore has an explanation for what happened in last night's debate and i promise you, you're probably not going to believe it. that's later. up next a much more serious conscience of the internal debate after the u.s. attack in libya it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. like in a special ops...
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would get unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now we would be at 5.4% unemployment. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to rest and close the door on that. to prevent that the democrats were pumping out attack ads to keep it very much. >> bret: carl cameron, on your last point, almost everyone talking about wednesday's debate says mitt romney did pretty well or won, but how he won, that's the question, as carl mentioned, that has entered the post debate spin cycle. >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> stretching the truth or worse, that's how mitt romney won the
would get unemployment lower than it is. >> he said right now we would be at 5.4% unemployment. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my...
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>> looking at the polls i don't think it looked great for romney right now but the race could change until election day because we haven't had the debates. media sort of wishful thinking, trying too write off romney. i normally do not buy into the idea media is on board on one side. this the exception. this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and obsessing over things that mitt romney has done wrong. >> rick: cal, why? >> why? do you have to ask. my goodness. first of all these polls, we talked about this before on the show. i'm opposed to news organizations doing their own polls and making news from them. what you are going to see ten days, two weeks before the election is lot of story line being, hey the race is night thing because they want ratings the but these things are sophisticated form of fortune telling. i passed on the way studio, psychic, let me stop the cab and see who is going to win the election but it's the same approach. >> rick: the narrative that gets plays out in the media. it's almost o
>> looking at the polls i don't think it looked great for romney right now but the race could change until election day because we haven't had the debates. media sort of wishful thinking, trying too write off romney. i normally do not buy into the idea media is on board on one side. this the exception. this campaign season has been especially egregious in terms of them ignoring things that are bad about president obama and obsessing over things that mitt romney has done wrong. >>...
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. >> greta: all right. i read your twitter account all the time, apparently, you have lots of followers -- >> lots. >> greta: lots indeed. one of your recent tweets is, if president obama mentions governor mitt romney's tax returns in tomorrow's debate, then governor romney should ask for president obama's college records and applications. you really think he should do ha? >> absolutely. i don't know that he will. i hope he does. maybe one of the mod raters will do t. it's a question that she we should know and an answer we should know. he is supposed to be the transparent president. he is the least transparent president in the history this country. many people have done it. many people have given those records and many presidents have given them. there would be nothing wrong with him going it. >> greta: suppose it's the modserator and president obama is just fine with the number of tax returns that governor rom romney has turned over and it's the modserator, jim lehrer, who says tdo you want governor romne
. >> greta: all right. i read your twitter account all the time, apparently, you have lots of followers -- >> lots. >> greta: lots indeed. one of your recent tweets is, if president obama mentions governor mitt romney's tax returns in tomorrow's debate, then governor romney should ask for president obama's college records and applications. you really think he should do ha? >> absolutely. i don't know that he will. i hope he does. maybe one of the mod raters will do t....
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so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most interesting thing about that is as someone is trying to pat your arm demonstrating is he powerful. president obama comes across as powerful because is he patting. romney had the same amount of power going on. >> bill: do you believe that they actually think about what's going to happen when they walk out and how they are going to shake hands and their posture. do you believe they think about that. >> i think they know about it, yes. absolutely. >> bill: what do you mean know about it? >> they are told what to do. walk out and make sure this is how you proceed. one of the interesting dynamics was,
so the first thing i noticed was the president grabbing romney's arm. >> right. and talking his wallet. no, he didn't really. but he, you know, getting a little -- kind of semi hug. >> that's not the first thing i notice. the first thing i notice was the swagger that the president came out with. >> bill: he was bopping. >> his arms are swinging high. romney is not. he is very stiff when it comes to walking out an stage. then the hands meet. the patting goes on. the most...
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romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the simpson-bowles commission and the simpson-bowles commission put out three different tax rates and each rate you will have to do something with the deductions and exemptions, eliminate all of them or retain them and romney says i'm going to drop rates and put all of those deductions and exemptions on the table for negotiation. any serious person in politics knows that's the starting point pour reworking the tax code. you don't have to get into the fine detail at this point. >> paul: kim, what do they have to do to maintain the momentum, the romney campaign. >> you see them doing this. now flooding the zone
romney wants to raise taxes on the middle class in order to pay for tax cuts for the wealthy. he rebutted that very effectively i thought. but i would also like to see more details. >> paul: he gave a couple of details in regard to, for example, here is how you reduce deductions and exemptions, a $25,000 $50,000 limit that any one individual could use. that was specific offered by marty felled stein of harvard as a way to make tax reform work. >> and both of them embraced the...
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, right. okay. campaign is leaking strategy, what mitt romney wants to call barack obama on his deceptions. my question is, is it smart to leak the strategy and is that a smart strategy to go after obama's deception? >> it allows barack obama to polish his deception. [ laughter ] >> to are pointed i wouldn't agree with that strategy. that is pretty much what they have been doing up until now so far is reacting to bain capital and the rest of it. which 'puts them on defensive and having them play obama's game. i think romney probably needs to go in there with a thought out piece by piece critique of barack obama's economic policies linking him to the weak economy that he has presided over four years. i say that because my sense, paul, there are a substantial number of voters. people lo say i think i'm going to vote for president obama. i don't feel that strongly about it, but i don't think mr. romney has made the case with me. i wish i could hear him out before i make up my mind. this is the op
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their basic message was, yes, mitt romney did very well. yes, his tone was right. yes, his style was right. but he lied the whole way through the debate. i problem i think for the obama campaign is that they didn't spend a lot of time going through what the substantive problems were with the arguments that mitt romney was making. if you want to accuse somebody of lying in the context of a presidential campaign, you have to lay it out pretty clearly. >> greta: byron. >> they have not been able to come up with an explanation for why the president didn't use the ammunition he had, if he wanted to. he never mentioned the 47% or bain capital. never mentioned any war on women. all of the things that the democratic faithful wanted to hear, he didn't say eye have a theoro that, as a lawyer, you don't want -- you don't want him to look dirty and get in the gutter and start to push those buttons. he has all of those ads out there, everybody's going to be hearing that, he has the super pacs, why get his hans dirty? >> they could say that. but i asked david plouffe that. i ask
their basic message was, yes, mitt romney did very well. yes, his tone was right. yes, his style was right. but he lied the whole way through the debate. i problem i think for the obama campaign is that they didn't spend a lot of time going through what the substantive problems were with the arguments that mitt romney was making. if you want to accuse somebody of lying in the context of a presidential campaign, you have to lay it out pretty clearly. >> greta: byron. >> they have not...
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this is only one person right now trying to play politics with this issue. it is mitt romney. when he came out before the facts were known and specific on it, shot from the hip. before our families remain even notified. ever since, jumbled the story line, have it calf the president, but, still, has yet to put out his own foreign policy vision and say what he would do differently on libya or any number issues. >>shepard: i understand your criticism on the jumbling of the story line but i want to get to the bottom the jumbling of the story line on this matter because this matter of susan rice telling us one thing and intelligence knowing something else entirely is a matter that could be very tricky for a campaign and, frankly, could be concerning to a lot of americans that the president goes off to a campaign event to raise money and we have had the assassination of an ambassador overseas for the first time since 1979. >>guest: as i said at the beginning, i don't have access to any information on this beyond what is in the public. i do know how these things unfold where facts be
this is only one person right now trying to play politics with this issue. it is mitt romney. when he came out before the facts were known and specific on it, shot from the hip. before our families remain even notified. ever since, jumbled the story line, have it calf the president, but, still, has yet to put out his own foreign policy vision and say what he would do differently on libya or any number issues. >>shepard: i understand your criticism on the jumbling of the story line but i...
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you know, that's not a strong suit for president obama right now and something mitt romney can really take, take obama out with. jon: ron bonjean and julie roginsky, thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: there is certainly a lot of reaction to september's jobs report. both presidential campaigns going into spin mode already. what do today's numbers really tell us about the prospects for millions of americans looking for work? our jobs panel weighs in and talks a little bit about this report and takes your questions. >>> a textbook example of a round house punch. maybe this guy felt he had nothing to lose after pleading guilty. wait until you hear how much the time his attack on his own lawyer added to his sentence jenna: the new jobs numbers out this morning as i'm sure you're aware at this point. some say pointing to really a break-through in the recovery. the unemployment rate falling below 8% for the first time in almost four years but a deeper look shows a little bit different picture. we want to show this to you. you might hear a lot about u-6 rates that measures people not fully
you know, that's not a strong suit for president obama right now and something mitt romney can really take, take obama out with. jon: ron bonjean and julie roginsky, thank you both. >> thank you. jenna: there is certainly a lot of reaction to september's jobs report. both presidential campaigns going into spin mode already. what do today's numbers really tell us about the prospects for millions of americans looking for work? our jobs panel weighs in and talks a little bit about this...
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. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is the impact? >> for the challenger in this case, mitt romney it's very important because a lot of american people have only seen soundbites of him. this is almost like a job application. the first time the american people are going to be able seeing mitt romney for 90 minutes straight. therefore, it's very important he make a good i am presenting. for the president. this is president that was elected on enormous upsurge, hope and change in 2008. economy the sour. he has to recapture that and explain to the american people why they should waited longer for hope and change. >> jamie: what do you think is the mos
. >>> right now president obama and governor romney are getting ready for this week's big battle. first presidential debate. our next guest says it's the last cans to make that first impression. governor romney needs to figure out how to appear aggressive but nice while the president needs to avoid missteps. john fund is co-author of "who is counting?" great to see you. i was going to ask you first. is it a question when it comes to a first debate of first impression, what is...
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>> eric: romney -- >> dana: basketball did start in china, right? kidding. >> bob: basketball? >> dana: bob, can you save us. save our segment. >> bob: one of the great events happened last night. that is that the washington nationals, team not that m years ago lost 100 games, won their division. now a top team in baseball. by percentage of win and losses and will go on to win the world series. congratulations. >> dana: that is a prediction. like woody johnson and john elway. >> bob: but i'll be right. >> dana: the giants will cream the -- >> greg: the giants will cream the nationals. i'm doing my horoscope. they said, "one minute hard" in my ear. forget it. no one more thing from me. forget it. >> dana: horoscope means that your moon is rising. >> bob: full moon rising. >> dana: apparently so. >> bob: that is what happens when you do one of these things. never mind. sorry. sorry. sorry. secret here. >> extra special effort in the next few days you will enjoy success beyond your wildest dreams and some of your dreams are pretty
>> eric: romney -- >> dana: basketball did start in china, right? kidding. >> bob: basketball? >> dana: bob, can you save us. save our segment. >> bob: one of the great events happened last night. that is that the washington nationals, team not that m years ago lost 100 games, won their division. now a top team in baseball. by percentage of win and losses and will go on to win the world series. congratulations. >> dana: that is a prediction. like woody...
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i would do it if i were romney. i wouldn't bring it up say, you know, like right out of the box. but as soon as the president is -- you are a person who doesn't really want to represent all america, guy are you kidding me? i go are you kidding me? you are saying that to me? and bang, bang, bang. and i would do it. do you expect, kirsten, passion like i bring or are we going to have pinheaded stuff like pbs does? what are we going to have? we're not going to have passion as you call it, whatever it is that you have. >> none of that. >> look, it's supposed to be all on the economy so i think it's probably going to be, you know, pretty straightforward. hopefully a difficult question holding obama accountable and making him account for his record. >> bill: are you talking about this debate or it's undebated in the land of oz? don't you guys get it? it doesn't matter what lehrer asks. they are north going to answer that question. neither of them are going to answer it. they are going to -- they have been rehearsing. what do you think they have been rehearsing over the past three month
i would do it if i were romney. i wouldn't bring it up say, you know, like right out of the box. but as soon as the president is -- you are a person who doesn't really want to represent all america, guy are you kidding me? i go are you kidding me? you are saying that to me? and bang, bang, bang. and i would do it. do you expect, kirsten, passion like i bring or are we going to have pinheaded stuff like pbs does? what are we going to have? we're not going to have passion as you call it, whatever...
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i know your side believes vice president bind got it just right because romney is selling t-shirts praising joe biden's honesty. >> i think we are starting this deof --starting this debate wita little honesty. we are seeing a huge amount of debt piles on it was four years ago this president dazzled us in debate saying he understood the problems this country faced. he knew the magnitude of the issues the country had to get through. but he had the right solution. here we are four years later and he still hasn't accomplished any of what he set out to do. that will be the biggest hurdle he has to overcome tonight looking back saying why didn't he accomplish anything he did with a democratic congress for the first two years of his administration. megyn: the point the vice president was trying to make was that he was saying the non-partisan tax policy center argued romney's tax plan will push a higher tax burdennen onto the middle class. >> it as liberal think tank that would take any numbers we put out and say it was bad. the fact of the matter is an independent study said it would lower middle
i know your side believes vice president bind got it just right because romney is selling t-shirts praising joe biden's honesty. >> i think we are starting this deof --starting this debate wita little honesty. we are seeing a huge amount of debt piles on it was four years ago this president dazzled us in debate saying he understood the problems this country faced. he knew the magnitude of the issues the country had to get through. but he had the right solution. here we are four years...
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the mead yu followed that and we're finding mitt romney was right. this administration had a very weak reaction to a growing threat and people need to wonder what would have happened if the president came out an condemned this hours as it was happening before the ambassador was killed. gregg: rick, thank you very much. appreciate it. jenna: more on that story throughout the day for sure. meantime a powerful typhoon toppling trees and power lines and proving deadly. where this storm is hitting, we have that just ahead. >>> plus independent voters, they were key to putting president obama in the white house but could independents be turning the other direction, more towards governor romney? a debate, fair and balanced ahead. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about that 401(k) you picked up back in the '80s. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like a lot of things, the market has changed, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and your plans probably have too. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we'll give you personalized recommendations tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 on how to reinvest that
the mead yu followed that and we're finding mitt romney was right. this administration had a very weak reaction to a growing threat and people need to wonder what would have happened if the president came out an condemned this hours as it was happening before the ambassador was killed. gregg: rick, thank you very much. appreciate it. jenna: more on that story throughout the day for sure. meantime a powerful typhoon toppling trees and power lines and proving deadly. where this storm is hitting,...
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being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and his advertising and force him to do it and it was a lot of people who don't like those kinds of attacks, the president's going to have problems this. vice-presidential debate, i am telling you, ryan will not make this about medicare, but go after joe biden and president obama about foreign policy and libya and put them on the defensive, that's a good move. >> sean: and the economy. he has to go after the economy -- [overlapping dialogue] >> the economy, too-- >>> plus i. the key issue that wasn't discuss in the debate were g
being on the far right. have you to do it in the town hall -- [overlapping dialogue] >> this is where i dissent. this is where i dissent from everyone that this is automatically an obama event. if the romney people -- which they have not-- the romney campaign hasn't got know any better than it has been, which is terrible. romney was really good. but the question they need to push on the president is, he didn't make these charges in the last debate, face it face. if they go after that and...
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megyn: that's right. they came out and said we didn't have any involvement in it, which is what the obama camp came out and said after the super pac. remember the cancer ad suggesting that mitt romney had killed off a woman. >> instead, stephanie cutter was caught in a flat out lie surrounding mitt romney gave my wife cancer commercial. stephanie cutter was in the middle of that and she was exposed as a liar at that time. she is one of the lead distractors at this point. they are trying to change the subject from the president's disastrous performance and perhaps understandably, in the debate the other night, but to pretend that mitt romney should, in any way, comment on a piece of videotape from an event that was open to the press, where the president is exposed as a liar and a fraud or in incumbent fraud was trying to polarize along the lines of race is laughable on the face of it. it would be laughable if it weren't so outrageous. but they are trying to settle the romney campaign with troppo partisan i
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. >> chris: suppose that the doubters are right and president romney takes office and the math doesn't add up. >> i have run them in congress and they do. >> chris: let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney? kale bacscale back in the 20% r the wealthy or scale back and say we have to raise taxes for the middle class? the question is what is most important to him in the tax reform plan? >> keeping tax rates down by lowering tax rates people keep more of the next dollar that they earn. that matters. sin cent ives and progrowth policy and creates 7 million jobs. >> chris: that is more important. >> more important than anything. and it is not what deductions are in the tax code but who gets them and don't forget that the higher income people have a disproportionate amount of the loopholes that they use. when you close a tax write-off or tax shelter for a higher income person more of their income is subject to taxation so you can lower tax rates. where we go is by denying the deductions and loopholes to higher income people which allows us is to lower tax rat
. >> chris: suppose that the doubters are right and president romney takes office and the math doesn't add up. >> i have run them in congress and they do. >> chris: let's assume it doesn't. the question is what is most important to romney? kale bacscale back in the 20% r the wealthy or scale back and say we have to raise taxes for the middle class? the question is what is most important to him in the tax reform plan? >> keeping tax rates down by lowering tax rates people...
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nevertheless, governor romney was able to raise more than 10 million right after that debate. what does that mean, those campaign contributions, at this point? >> the president's campaign had such a big month in september because a lot of his supporters thought he was going to win and they wanted buy in and they put up the biggest month any campaign has had in this election season. i would point out president obama had a bigger month in his fir run for office in 2008. but really, for romney, he just energized supporters and showed him he's back in the game. i would say there was a lot of talk before the debate that mitt romney, his -- the chances in the race were slipping away so a lot of republican donors were looking at moving to congressional races and wanted to think about the senate and house races as a way to save runs, if you will, because they thought romney's chance mrs. over t shows he's back in the game. >> the vice presidential debate, a lot of people who werethis on the fence have been telling me that they got the specifics that they wanted from the romney campaig
nevertheless, governor romney was able to raise more than 10 million right after that debate. what does that mean, those campaign contributions, at this point? >> the president's campaign had such a big month in september because a lot of his supporters thought he was going to win and they wanted buy in and they put up the biggest month any campaign has had in this election season. i would point out president obama had a bigger month in his fir run for office in 2008. but really, for...
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there's so many comparisons made between romney and reagan right now, i'm just curious, does romney have to be the second coming of ronald reagan in these debates to win? >> no. i don't think he has to be the second coming of ronald reagan. he has to be mitt romney. but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his failed economic policies. governor romney has to do exactly the same thing. he has to make the debate about the president's failed policies on the economy and convince voters that it was those policies that's made their lives a lot worse over these last four years rather than let the president blame earthquakes or the, you know, president bush or the tsunami or anything. jenna: i have some questions about style versus substance, big questions about likability. we're going to take a quick commercial break and be right back with you for some more tips on debating, right after this. h. but things are start
there's so many comparisons made between romney and reagan right now, i'm just curious, does romney have to be the second coming of ronald reagan in these debates to win? >> no. i don't think he has to be the second coming of ronald reagan. he has to be mitt romney. but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his...
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that was the recovery summer of 2010. >> but romney -- there were a whole lot of people right now who want to vote for romney. want to vote against obama. but they don't want to vote for romney because of all the negatives obama's piled on them which has not been answered. they're sitting on one side waiting for permission to jump over and vote for romney. in the debate, that he's not a monster, that he's a man of integrity and defending himself on this stuff, can absolutely encourage them to jump over and make it possible for them to do that. >> sean: what a joke all weekend, watching the obama people trying to lower expectations. >> yeah, right. >> sean: 2-1. >> let's par remember that most debates work in favor of the challenger. the challenger walks on and does a good job, like reagan did against carter, all the fears of him go away. carter against gerald ford in 1976. mondale against reagan in the first debate. >> sean: yeah. >> the challenger has an innate advantage in these debates, because he can show that he's not a monster, that he's informed, that he's okay, that he's reaso
that was the recovery summer of 2010. >> but romney -- there were a whole lot of people right now who want to vote for romney. want to vote against obama. but they don't want to vote for romney because of all the negatives obama's piled on them which has not been answered. they're sitting on one side waiting for permission to jump over and vote for romney. in the debate, that he's not a monster, that he's a man of integrity and defending himself on this stuff, can absolutely encourage...
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>>neil: i like what you said "right now" it is changing people's perception of mitt romney. professor, always a pleasure, thank you. to wall street and whether investors think romney could be a "by." the same bunch is saying in polls they he has no chance to be present but did that change last night? what do you think, scott? >>guest: well, it is interesting. looking at contributions for the last few months, alone from wall street, the big switch from mitt romney of four years ago. the mormon is stormin', this is a romney rally all day long. the markets seems to like where we are. >>neil: you credit this to the romney thing? ing i am. i have to because at this rate the economy is not growing. we have a job number tomorrow that will probably be careful, yes, a fed is all in, but if you watch the futures as i do in the middle of the night to my wife's discretion i have to say futures bounce after this debate. >>neil: you are right. we noticed that and we noticed the foreign market reaction. but you know i don't brag but we were the only ones noticing that. do you think the mar
>>neil: i like what you said "right now" it is changing people's perception of mitt romney. professor, always a pleasure, thank you. to wall street and whether investors think romney could be a "by." the same bunch is saying in polls they he has no chance to be present but did that change last night? what do you think, scott? >>guest: well, it is interesting. looking at contributions for the last few months, alone from wall street, the big switch from mitt romney...
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in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he has to be able to litigate and make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. folks believe the economy is bad right now but what they don't actually believe is it is the president's fault. he has to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him that the president is the one to blame for the economy we've got right now. >> there is something going on. if he acts too much on the attack, it will look like he is showing disrespect to the president but if he doesn't, then he looks defer yen shl. coach me, tell me how to walk on that stage -- deferential. coach me without being deferential? >> it's a matter of tone and how you address the president. as long as governor romney addresses the president with mr. president, your policies have failed the american people. i think as long as he carries a respectful tone. he needs to be what i would say as passionately aggressive. he is respectful of
in right now to the failure of the president's policies. he has to be able to litigate and make the case that the policies the president has put forward have caused the economy to continue to go down. folks believe the economy is bad right now but what they don't actually believe is it is the president's fault. he has to make that case in the debate with the president standing on the stage with him that the president is the one to blame for the economy we've got right now. >> there is...
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in my experience, debating romney four years ago. it appeared to me there were times on the debate stage, i notice there was almost telegraphing some of his forbes and feelings, his facial expressions. that is an important thing that people watch for to see if you are pushing his buttons and getting through to him. i don't know if i noticed it this year's primaries. how important is it that mitt romney gets under the skin of barack obama barack obama get under the skin of mitt romney and it will show to the audience? >> audiences reported they take as much as 65% of the meaning from how something is said over what is said. so body language and how he appears on the stage is very important. normally when a candidate gets defensive that is when they started looking bad. that happens with barack obama. it happened when he told hillary she was like have likable enough. it happened with mitt romney when he did the $10,000 bet with governor perry. it's very important that governor romney keeps making the case about the economy and keep pus
in my experience, debating romney four years ago. it appeared to me there were times on the debate stage, i notice there was almost telegraphing some of his forbes and feelings, his facial expressions. that is an important thing that people watch for to see if you are pushing his buttons and getting through to him. i don't know if i noticed it this year's primaries. how important is it that mitt romney gets under the skin of barack obama barack obama get under the skin of mitt romney and it...